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		<title>By: Jack Sandgathe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Sandgathe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 02:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At 79, I may be your oldest newbie! I live in Trinity Lodge and would like to get into robotics. I have some background in machining, electronics, hobbies of various types. I would like to talk to someone, person to person. My phone (cell) is 403-934-0813. Please call, Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 79, I may be your oldest newbie! I live in Trinity Lodge and would like to get into robotics. I have some background in machining, electronics, hobbies of various types. I would like to talk to someone, person to person. My phone (cell) is 403-934-0813. Please call, Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience I&#039;ve found that the only thing holding me back from going back to PIC microcontrollers is the price of the programming software needed. I started out programming PICs (PIC16F877 &amp; PIC16F84) in tech school but the years after school were lean with having to pay off debts so I naturally moved over to cheaper Atmel development. I went from programming in &#039;BASIC&#039; on the ATMEGA32 from wrighthobbies.net, then to &#039;C&#039; on the AVRbutterfly (ATMEGA169) from smileymicros.com, and now very recently to &#039;WIRING&#039; on the FreeDuino (ATMEGA328) from solarbotics which, as Brutus alluded to, is largely supported and very popular (The Arduino Revolution as I like to call it) and has free programming software. My opinion is the same as Brutus&#039;. At the moment I prefer ATMEL uC&#039;s but more specifically the Ardunio kits because they are very affordable way to get into microcontroller development and are widely supported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience I&#8217;ve found that the only thing holding me back from going back to PIC microcontrollers is the price of the programming software needed. I started out programming PICs (PIC16F877 &amp; PIC16F84) in tech school but the years after school were lean with having to pay off debts so I naturally moved over to cheaper Atmel development. I went from programming in &#8216;BASIC&#8217; on the ATMEGA32 from wrighthobbies.net, then to &#8216;C&#8217; on the AVRbutterfly (ATMEGA169) from smileymicros.com, and now very recently to &#8216;WIRING&#8217; on the FreeDuino (ATMEGA328) from solarbotics which, as Brutus alluded to, is largely supported and very popular (The Arduino Revolution as I like to call it) and has free programming software. My opinion is the same as Brutus&#8217;. At the moment I prefer ATMEL uC&#8217;s but more specifically the Ardunio kits because they are very affordable way to get into microcontroller development and are widely supported.</p>
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		<title>By: climber</title>
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		<dc:creator>climber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started with the PIC but switched to the AVR after learning how easy it was to make it go.  It&#039;s a nearly perfect fit with the way I like to develop software and the implementation of gcc to support it is most excellent.  I have the xmegas in the cross hairs and I&#039;ve gotten every tool except one upgraded to support them.  Once gcc catches up then I am off to the races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started with the PIC but switched to the AVR after learning how easy it was to make it go.  It&#8217;s a nearly perfect fit with the way I like to develop software and the implementation of gcc to support it is most excellent.  I have the xmegas in the cross hairs and I&#8217;ve gotten every tool except one upgraded to support them.  Once gcc catches up then I am off to the races.</p>
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		<title>By: Robot Games</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robot Games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robot games totally rock, I&#039;m suprised this wonderful inovative genre is back, thumbs up guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robot games totally rock, I&#8217;m suprised this wonderful inovative genre is back, thumbs up guys!</p>
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		<title>By: skater_j10</title>
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		<dc:creator>skater_j10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be bringing some robots built out of recycled materials and electronics :)

As for microcontroller [uC] preference, I think I prefer ATMEL micros, solely based on compiler software costs. It&#039;s funny that I learned on Motorola and Microchip uC&#039;s but ended up moving over to Atmel chips due to the low cost of the software.

I went from the 68HC11, PIC16F877, &amp; PIC16F84 at tech school to the ATMEGA32 when I purchased the Devboard-M32 from Wrighthobbies. I programmed with a &#039;BASIC&#039; compiler on the M32 which cost $85 at the time as compared to &#039;PICBASIC PRO&#039; which was around $300. 

From there I moved over to the ATMEGA169 AVRbutterfly kit from Smileymicros and began to program in &#039;C&#039; because the compiler was free! 

Now I very recently have moved over to &#039;WIRING&#039; (also a free compiler) and the ever popular world of Arduino&#039;s to see what everyone is raving so I purchased a FreeDuino from Solarbotics. I also wanted to gain some experience with an Arduino so that when I try to help people who are trying to join the Ardunio Revolution, I&#039;ll know what I&#039;m talking about.

I think I&#039;m with Brutus, I favour Atmels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be bringing some robots built out of recycled materials and electronics <img src='http://www.robotgames.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for microcontroller [uC] preference, I think I prefer ATMEL micros, solely based on compiler software costs. It&#8217;s funny that I learned on Motorola and Microchip uC&#8217;s but ended up moving over to Atmel chips due to the low cost of the software.</p>
<p>I went from the 68HC11, PIC16F877, &amp; PIC16F84 at tech school to the ATMEGA32 when I purchased the Devboard-M32 from Wrighthobbies. I programmed with a &#8216;BASIC&#8217; compiler on the M32 which cost $85 at the time as compared to &#8216;PICBASIC PRO&#8217; which was around $300. </p>
<p>From there I moved over to the ATMEGA169 AVRbutterfly kit from Smileymicros and began to program in &#8216;C&#8217; because the compiler was free! </p>
<p>Now I very recently have moved over to &#8216;WIRING&#8217; (also a free compiler) and the ever popular world of Arduino&#8217;s to see what everyone is raving so I purchased a FreeDuino from Solarbotics. I also wanted to gain some experience with an Arduino so that when I try to help people who are trying to join the Ardunio Revolution, I&#8217;ll know what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m with Brutus, I favour Atmels.</p>
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		<title>By: Skater_j10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skater_j10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience I&#039;ve found that the only thing holding me back from going back to PIC microcontrollers is the price of the programming software needed. I started out programming PICs (PIC16F877 &amp; PIC16F84) in tech school but the years after school were lean with having to pay off debts so I naturally moved over to cheaper Atmel development. I went from programming in &#039;BASIC&#039; on the ATMEGA32 from wrighthobbies.net, then to &#039;C&#039; on the AVRbutterfly (ATMEGA169) from smileymicros.com, and now very recently to &#039;WIRING&#039; on the FreeDuino (ATMEGA328) from solarbotics which, as Brutus alluded to, is largely supported and very popular (The Arduino Revolution as I like to call it) and has free programming software. My opinion is the same as Brutus&#039;. At the moment I prefer ATMEL uC&#039;s but more specifically the Ardunio kits because they are very affordable way to get into microcontroller development and are widely supported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience I&#8217;ve found that the only thing holding me back from going back to PIC microcontrollers is the price of the programming software needed. I started out programming PICs (PIC16F877 &amp; PIC16F84) in tech school but the years after school were lean with having to pay off debts so I naturally moved over to cheaper Atmel development. I went from programming in &#8216;BASIC&#8217; on the ATMEGA32 from wrighthobbies.net, then to &#8216;C&#8217; on the AVRbutterfly (ATMEGA169) from smileymicros.com, and now very recently to &#8216;WIRING&#8217; on the FreeDuino (ATMEGA328) from solarbotics which, as Brutus alluded to, is largely supported and very popular (The Arduino Revolution as I like to call it) and has free programming software. My opinion is the same as Brutus&#8217;. At the moment I prefer ATMEL uC&#8217;s but more specifically the Ardunio kits because they are very affordable way to get into microcontroller development and are widely supported.</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brutus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a hardware design aspect, I really do enjoy the PIC lineup.  It has been fairly complex in the past to get up and running with them, however. 

I&#039;ve noticed recently bootloader advances have brought PICs to the same level as Atmel, but I think for a hobbyist, specifically talking about Arduino, there are far too many shields and accessories and help forums to ignore as a starting point.

Every month there are new Offerings, and the software is under constant development as they listen to the community and adapt.

Both are great options however!  Although I do favor Atmels, I really enjoy working in the PIC relm as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a hardware design aspect, I really do enjoy the PIC lineup.  It has been fairly complex in the past to get up and running with them, however. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed recently bootloader advances have brought PICs to the same level as Atmel, but I think for a hobbyist, specifically talking about Arduino, there are far too many shields and accessories and help forums to ignore as a starting point.</p>
<p>Every month there are new Offerings, and the software is under constant development as they listen to the community and adapt.</p>
<p>Both are great options however!  Although I do favor Atmels, I really enjoy working in the PIC relm as well.</p>
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